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HTML5 and FlowPlayer FallBack Created Jan 27, 2010

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kbbrux

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Feb 25, 2009

HTML5 and FlowPlayer FallBack

Posted: Jan 27, 2010

Hi there
Just came across this link on a sweet looking HTML 5 playerhttp://jilion.com/sublime/video a nicer looking QuickTime UI

Are there any plans on easily using HTML5 with some flowplayer look and feel and then falling back to Flash for IE (no surprise) and FF (no H264 in HTML5 there well not yet)

Regards
Kb

vodeclic

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Jun 2, 2009

» HTML5 and FlowPlayer FallBack

Posted: Feb 7, 2010

Reply to: HTML5 and FlowPlayer FallBack, from kbbrux
I would like to see this feature too !

urs

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Oct 17, 2009

» HTML5 and FlowPlayer FallBack

Posted: Apr 16, 2010

Reply to: HTML5 and FlowPlayer FallBack, from kbbrux
Please add HTML5 support in version 3.2

urs

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Oct 17, 2009

» HTML5 and FlowPlayer FallBack

Posted: May 6, 2010

Reply to: » HTML5 and FlowPlayer FallBack, from urs.hunkler
Searching the documentation of FlowPlayer 3.2 I didn't find anything about HTML5.

Now that FP 3.2 and JQTools 1.2 are out there may be some time to target HTML5 and perhaps give some hints how you would for example offer video for the iPad with FP.

Any help from the FP creators or users is much appreciated.

jgonzalFP

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Dec 28, 2009

HTML5 and FlowPlayer FallBack

Posted: May 21, 2010

Reply to: » HTML5 and FlowPlayer FallBack, from urs.hunkler
Does anyone have an update to this inquiry? Leveraging flowplayer but reverting / falling back to HTML5 for browsers that don't support Flash (ie mobile devices, iPhones, iPads, etc ...)?

chubster
It's all good!

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Oct 6, 2008

HTML5 and FlowPlayer FallBack

Posted: May 8, 2010

Reply to: HTML5 and FlowPlayer FallBack, from kbbrux
Having seen this:

http://jilion.com/sublime/video

It is unlikely I would be willing to upgrade to my commercial license to FP 3.2

HTML5 is obviously the way forward for video on mobile, which is where a lot of the action will be in the coming years.

It will be difficult for Flowplayer to deal with this as it is a Flash based offer.

kaptis_studios

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Aug 30, 2008

Except for the full screen issue

Posted: Jun 11, 2010

Reply to: HTML5 and FlowPlayer FallBack, from chubster22
Because html 5 is limited to browser code, there is currently no easy way to go full screen. This is even worse on the Mac side as the browser only fills half the screen by default.

chubster
It's all good!

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Oct 6, 2008

» Except for the full screen issue

Posted: Jun 12, 2010

Reply to: Except for the full screen issue, from kaptis_studios
Agreed, however full screen is not an issue with mobile video. Given the choice right now for web video, I would still choose Flowplayer as a). I've paid for it, and b). html5 does not have the functionality - yet.

electroteque

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Nov 12, 2008

» HTML5 and FlowPlayer FallBack

Posted: Jun 23, 2010

Reply to: HTML5 and FlowPlayer FallBack, from kbbrux
Guys just some feedback, I've done some research on my end on how to get http live streaming for the iphone in html5 working. It will happen soon, I think though html5 video should only be displayed for iphone and ipad devices, it will obviouslly have to be a different link to a m3u8 playlist file and linked normally for rtmp.

In my research i've also found wowza streaming server and soon red5 generate the playlist and segmented files dynamically so no need for custom systems to run command line scripts to split h264 files into pieces, generate the playlist files for the segments and then also have to deal with all these files on web servers :) Http live streaming is recommended for iphone aswell not just linking to a single video file which makes things even more complicated if just serving from a web server.

Flash is a good platform and I don't see any reason to have to hack everything up and replicate every single flash plugin into javascript. Considering it cant even go fullscreen what is the point ? That is my opinion, flash is the standard not html5 :) Iphone will use quicktime to render html5 videos and uses its own controller, so there isn't really a need for a javascript controller although I think they are also working on that. So basically its a new api for a javascript controller for starters, and then maybe all the plugins have to be ported which I think is a waste but might have to happen :D

cesarcesar

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Jun 29, 2010

Apple Mobile Device Support

Posted: Aug 11, 2010

Reply to: HTML5 and FlowPlayer FallBack, from kbbrux
I too am very eager to have a graceful fallback for i-devices and other non-flash supporting devices. Flowplayer is amazing for all that it offers. I will continue to use it, but i just dread the experience i have to offer my users that cant take it.

Anssi
Flowplayer Flash & video streaming developer

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» Apple Mobile Device Support

Posted: Aug 11, 2010

Reply to: Apple Mobile Device Support, from cesarcesar
We have a iDevice fallback support coming with our next release - should go out already this week.

kbbrux

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Feb 25, 2009

» » Apple Mobile Device Support

Posted: Aug 11, 2010

Reply to: » Apple Mobile Device Support, from Anssi
Wow that is awesome can't wait to see this or do you have some sneak peek screenshots , or docs on usage :D

jgonzalFP

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Dec 28, 2009

» » Apple Mobile Device Support

Posted: Aug 13, 2010

Reply to: » Apple Mobile Device Support, from Anssi
That's awesome. When is the actual release date and what version number should we be looking out for? Will you notify us? I'd like to hold off on a release on my site so that we can incorporate this change.

Thomas Dubois
thomas_at_bigsool.com

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Feb 1, 2010

» » » Apple Mobile Device Support

Posted: Aug 17, 2010

Reply to: » » Apple Mobile Device Support, from jgonzalFP
Hey,

This is now out :)

Cheers,
Thomas

electroteque

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Nov 12, 2008

» » » » Apple Mobile Device Support

Posted: Aug 30, 2010

Reply to: » » » Apple Mobile Device Support, from blaaaaaaah
Works pretty well, just initially link to the m3u8 playlist url in wowza, and then configure a seperate playlist in the config for flash. Obviouslly linking to a single mp4 clip is not desirable in this day and age and even apple advise to use their live streaming system for iphone :)

ecoimpresoras

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Feb 24, 2011

Apple mobile device support

Posted: Apr 1, 2011

Reply to: » » Apple Mobile Device Support, from jgonzalFP
Flowplayer Which just released version 3.2.3 includes an HTML5 fall back mode for iPhone and iPad But Adobe Has Given up fighting with Apple for Flash on Apple devices.impresoras cd

bernhard

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Jun 17, 2008

mp4 won the race....

Posted: Aug 4, 2011

Reply to: HTML5 and FlowPlayer FallBack, from kbbrux
Hello All

I have had the same objections posted on this board. But I recently wend on a fact finding trip and found the j-mediaelement html5 player.
This is the only working player that does away with multiple compressed file formats and containers and uses a "one file fits all" strategy.

http://www.protofunc.com/jme/demos/multiple-player-in-tabs-dialogs.html

FF and IE are using the flash fallback. I still have to figure out how to replace the JMplayer with the flowplayer and make the sidemenu work in iPhones, but I will, and everything else looks just like magic.

here is a working dynamic generated HTML5 group player.

http://www.onvos.com/view-3.1.3/view.html

I hope this helps some people to get their HTML5 strategies right.

Saludos
B